Filmmakers: Kelly Wallace-Barnhill and Lindsey Gentile
The two of you have teamed up twice now to create the web series “Kelly and Lindsey Do New York” and “Timber the Series“. What is it about the web series medium that drew you to it?
Lindsey: We started our comedic partnership together performing live. While we feel a different kind of creative fulfillment performing on stage, we wanted to reach a bigger and broader audience. This brings us to the internet. We love the web series platform because we have total control over it. We write the episodes, edit them, act in them, cast them, and are completely hands on in the filming process. We’ve learned so much from watching a series evolve from start to finish. It’s also a way to show who we are and what our TV show would look like if we got picked up by a major network and it’s a much better resume than you would just read on paper.
Kelly: It’s just a whole other form of expression and storytelling that we’ve totally fallen in love with. It’s like a mini TV show. TV for short attention spans and small budgets.
How did the concept of using real Tinder dating stories for a web series come about?
Kelly: Have you ever been on Tinder? The episodes write themselves!
Lindsey: Instead of crying into our Pinot Noir, we decided to take every failed Tinder date that we’ve been on and have some fun with them.
Kelly: Well, not every failed Tinder date. We’re on a budget, people.
What was the production process like on “Timber”? Did you find any part of it particularly difficult or unexpected?
Kelly: We had many bumps in the road. Mostly with sound and editing, because I am a bit of a perfectionist.
Lindsey: She would hear these little blips that I’d never hear in a million years.
Kelly: They were driving me crazy! I had to learn how to let go of a lot of things. We would also spend hours editing and open the computer the next day and the files would just disappear. We also learned to be more organized. We were working with two laptops and three hard drives and nothing was labeled correctly. It was a bit insane.
Lindsey: But Kelly is amazing, she learned how to edit with Premiere pro, and she, along with our co-producer Natasha, did all the editing. The actual filming went pretty smoothly because our entire cast and crew were very good friends who were doing this all for free because they loved us and believed in us. We shot three episodes in two very long days.
What brought you two together in the first place? Has your professional relationship evolved over the years?
Lindsey: We met in a level one UCB class. When we went around the room and introduced ourselves, Kelly mentioned that she was from South Florida, which is where I’m from. I introduced myself after class, trying to make a new friend and Kelly snubbed me.
Kelly: Yes, she reminds me of this about once a week. I honestly don’t remember it that way, but apparently I was “cold” to her. I was probably just tired. She’s very sensitive.
Lindsey: We met some amazing people in this class and decided to write a mock soap opera called “Juan Life to Live”.
Kelly: It was about a guy named Juan.
Lindsey: I think they got that.
Kelly: That was for anyone illiterate or blind who was having this read aloud to them.
Lindsey: We were a big group producing the project and it was hard to get everyone’s schedules together. Kelly and I fell in love, in a non-sexual life partner kind of way and continued to write after Juan Life to Live didn’t quite take off.
Kelly: It really was a gem, though.
Lindsey: We wrote our first two woman live show, and then continued to work from there. We hosted a comedy show together for many years in NYC. We also wrote a two woman play, a few sketch shows, and then we started producing funny videos. Our relationship, both professional and personal has definitely evolved since then. It’s a marriage. You learn how the other person works, what their strengths are, how far you can push them. Where I lack, she thrives, and vice versa.
Kelly: It takes time and trust, but I think we have a good thing going. Right Wifey?
Lindsey: I am Wifey.
What has your experience been in producing your own work? How do you juggle the multiple hats you have to wear as writer, actor, and producer?
Lindsey: We have learned in past projects that if you don’t have a DP, director and AD that you trust 100% you can’t relax on shoot day and just be the actor. You’re too busy making sure you don’t miss shots, and the continuity is right, etc.
Kelly: One thing we have learned is that no one is going to love or care about your project as much as you do. And producing with a barely-there budget means you really do have to wear multiple hats. The trick is to wear the different hats at different times so you can do each job correctly. And that’s why you’ve hopefully assembled a dream team. For this project we put the right people in charge and really put the trust in the people around us so we could deliver the best performance on our shoot days.
As women in the entertainment industry, have you run into any road blocks while breaking into the industry?
Kelly: Everyday. This industry is one giant road block for women but it’s getting better and people are speaking out. I love how much new female driven and female produced content there is nowadays. It’s very inspiring!
Lindsey: As women in comedy, we had to learn that you can’t make out with comedians. You just can’t. Unless they are REALLY hot.
Kelly: That’s definitely one of the roadblocks! It’s hard to network with people without them thinking you want to make out with them. And then if you do, they won’t take you seriously. So we had to stop making out with so many people. It’s been very challenging.
Do you know what is next for Kelly and Lindsey?
Kelly: We are about to launch a Kickstarter campaign to raise money for the next three episodes of Timber.
Lindsey: We also need to get back on stage. We’re going to go on vacation and remove ourselves from life and just write. I miss performing and these projects take up so much time in the editing, etc. that it’s hard to do everything.
Kelly: But we will do it all because we have to! Mama needs to quit her day job.
Do you have one piece of advice you could give someone who is interested in filmmaking but doesn’t know where to start?
Lindsey: Stop worrying about the project and just write. Make a plan, set a date. It’ll evolve as it goes and become what you want it to be. But if you think too much and plan too much in the early stages, you could end up stalling or completely stopping yourself.
Kelly: Yes, one thing I’ve learned from Lindsey is that if you want to make something happen, set a date. Once the theater is booked or the production dates are set, the crew is on board and all your friends have taken off work to come to your set and work for free, you have no excuses. You will make it happen in the time you have because it HAS to get done. And nothing is ever going to be perfect. You could rewrite the same script for the rest of your life and never think it’s just right. Like Nike and my mom always say, “Just Do It.”
Production Still from “Timber the Series”
Behind-the-scenes of “Timber the Series”